Doctor Reacts to Middle Ground: Pro-Vaccine vs Anti-Vaccine


Hades
Hades

not taking a vaccine is like choosing to swim through a crocodile infested river instead of taking the bridge right next to you because you're worried that you might fall off or the bridge might crumble, even though the river has had a history of killing people who swam it since before the bridge was built. despite the obviously stupid choices you make, you force your children to swim WITH you through the crocodile infested waters. you get attacked by a croc, your children have already met the same fate a while back, meanwhile all the bystanders on the bridge watch. a most gruesome but well deserved fate it was (for you not your children) (saw this on reddit somewhere)

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L Nesset
L Nesset

If you want to hear the background to this debate, please listen to Dr. Bob and Melissa’s podcast “The Vaccine Conversation”. Apparently 2.5 hours were filmed but edited down to 15 minutes so much was left out. Dr. Bob says that neither of them are antivaccine, and most antivaxxers are actually not ANTI vaccine. They are pro informed consent and pro full disclosure of the risks of vaccines. Listen to all the episodes and educate yourself on the diseases and vaccine risk and then decide for yourself instead of just listening to the sound bites that the media puts out. http://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-vaccine-conversation-with-melissa-and-dr-bob/id1441700795?mt=2&i=1000429962552

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L Nesset
L Nesset

Dr. Mike...FYI all the people were told they could not bring in data. The vast majority of so called antivaxxers do not try to convince other parents to not vaccinate. They are only trying to bring out the science and data on the risks of vaccines so everyone is educated on both sides. Good for you to ask your patients about their vaccine reaction history. Not all doctors do and YES some doctors still advise more vaccines. I disagree about your comment that doctors or government have the right to mandate vaccines because a parent’s decision to not vaccine is equal to not getting a broken leg fixed. Parents who don’t vaccinate firmly believe they ARE taking the best care of their child by not vaccinating. They also realize there are risks to doing that but after being informed of the risks on both sides they feel the risk to having the diseases are less than having the vaccine. I grew up having all of these so called dangerous diseases and came out 100%fine, as did all the kids I knew. In our society we have clean water, good sanitation and great healthcare so the risk of serious complications are far less than having these diseases 100 years ago or in 3rd world countries. This is also why the incidence of those diseases actually went down in the early 1900’s. Vaccines came after the incidence of disease and death from the diseases already had declined significantly. In addition, in the 70’s and 80’s when vaccine rates were much lower than they are now, 50-60% vs 90-95%, there were not these outbreaks or a ton of deaths due to measles, whooping cough, mumps etc. So the argument that we need to have 95% vaccination rate for full herd immunity is not based in fact. In addition, My kids were not vaccinated and went to a school where most kids were not vaccinated. Did we have outbreaks all over the place? No. Chicken pox went around and kids stayed home for 2 weeks and everyone was fine. The kids at that school were extremely healthy and hardly got sick with anything. The measles and mumps outbreaks are now happening because the vaccines are not working as well and also because the vaccine virus can sometimes actually spread the disease. They can now test in a lab if the measles that someone has is from a vaccine or is wild. In many cases it is the vaccine measles that someone has caught.

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Leia Jiang
Leia Jiang

I am anti vaccine cause i am scared of needles, they are so scary. I still do tho cause it's required and i want to live

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Aaron Blank
Aaron Blank

I want this guy to be my doctor

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Ashly Diaz
Ashly Diaz

This doctor is sooo fine 💞💞😓

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Maria May
Maria May

Omg I watched this video a while ago! I'm so glad Dr. Mike that you did this reaction video. I wonder if you have seen that Bob Sears actually lost his license to practice because he was anti vac and a bunch of kids got sick. Like 800 something people. Another thing I have to point out is my son is 7 years old and he is on the autism spectrum I have anti vac friends that tell me it's because of vaccinations. I disagree 100% I fully believe that this is genetic, I look at my son's Dad and I know 100% and that he is on the spectrum, the reason I believe he is undiagnosed is because in this day and age there is much more mental health awareness then there way 20-30 years ago. Thank you doctor Mike! You rock, I absolutely love that you exist!

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b b
b b

Are illegal or undocumented immigrants getting vaccinated? I'm guessing they are not. Honestly is your politics more important than your vaccinated american children?

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The Iron Bloodline
The Iron Bloodline

I love that blue! Looks fantastic!

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Kstatewildestcat
Kstatewildestcat

I’d rather be “Safe-ish” than be exposed to dying sickness and put my loved ones at risk :) ❤️

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Siena S
Siena S

Not sure if anyone has commented this but apparently the pediatrician who is anti vaccine had his license revoked because of neglecting a patient

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Warning Signs
Warning Signs

middle ground on jabbing poison in infants bodies? Let me jab you 38 times before you attend school and tell me you are doing just fine little boy/girl - you guys are completely insane - middle ground on poisoning children? Get a real job

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alvin lajara
alvin lajara

We have an outbreak of measle here in the Philippines and more hundreds have died. The main reason? Parents refused the vaccines for their kids because of what happened to anti dengue vaccine. Now, hundreds of children are getting vaccinated because their parents are afraid of the measles. Those hundreds of children who died are most likely alive today if they were vaccinated.

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DoYouThinkForUrselF
DoYouThinkForUrselF

Eventually there will be no discussion on this topic. There will be the state who over see's the herd. This is true in other issues as well, society is becoming more and more ........herd oriented and belligerent towards individuals who disagree with them. It's not just on this issue it is society as a whole. You can see it in the comments below, hate, militarism type tyrannical....belligerent towards those who dare to question the authorities / experts. You can clearly see FORCE is the solution in the near future. That said the future will NEED more vaccines due to so much immigration / refugee's, a lot of these diseases run rampant in those countries and it's just a fact of life these diseases are going to explode in the near future.

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Sammy
Sammy

I can’t wait to see where all these anti-vaxxers stand after someone comes up with a vaccine during the zombie apocalypse.

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Hannah Smith
Hannah Smith

Amen🙌🏼

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Let's Go Crazy
Let's Go Crazy

I love that channel!!!!! (and yours)

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Dave Prum
Dave Prum

The dog balto is rolling in his grave.

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anon bitch49
anon bitch49

“It’s hard to trust someone who sees your child for 10 minutes twice a year...” HUH? Doctors spend between 10 and 20 years of their lives studying disease, health, and medical treatments, and perfect their craft for the rest of their lives. Just because they don’t see your kid often doesn’t mean that they don’t know what they’re talking about ... You google for 2 hours and all of a sudden you’re an MD with years of training? Wowwwww

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goddessoflove4ever
goddessoflove4ever

I was diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder by licensed doctors. My aunt, I lived with her for 2 years, decided that I ACTUALLY had MANIC Depressive Disorder because I'd come from school in a bad mood go in my room and then 30 minutes leave my room in a better mood. She also thought that I tried to kill myself because I wasn't "disciplined enough" guardians/parents are not trained professionals. They barely know their kids because of a plethora of things and they don't know all the warning signs of things. Like grrre

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Aviendha
Aviendha

Arthritis has nothing to do with vaccines. Not all arthritis is age related. That lady is stupid af... arthritis has never been linked with arthritis. Not even her own movement says that.

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Kiarean
Kiarean

yeah, seems to me like this is less a meeting between provax and antivax than between provax and those who think that antivaxers have some good points mixed in with the irrationality.

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elibean
elibean

when parents try to school physicians/doctors with factual data they got online 🙄🤦‍♀️

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Kasey291
Kasey291

I think part of the problem is the generation of parents now really didn’t see what these diseases did to people and how many died from them. Like the quote from John Steinbeck... We now face the danger, which in the past has been the most destructive to the humans: Success, plenty, comfort and ever-increasing leisure. No dynamic people has ever survived these dangers.

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SmolPidgen -
SmolPidgen -

Human be like: human noise Duck be like: duck noise Frog be like: JuMp Sheep be like: sheep noise Germs be like: mmmmm non vacc

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Raymond Tsai
Raymond Tsai

The video they are reacting to is bullshrimp

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koala201211
koala201211

He's hot

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Rustic Bred
Rustic Bred

The pediatrician who is anti vax has been suspended a lot for refusing to give vaccines.

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running _stars
running _stars

i just read the odds of a reaction to a vaccine is 1 in a million lol

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Brian Coyle
Brian Coyle

Anti-vaxers use the outliers on the scatter plot as evidence for their evidence

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Kwanjai Sann
Kwanjai Sann

I’ll just agree with Doctor mike, even if I don’t know what half of these words he is saying are.

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The Lone Chowder
The Lone Chowder

I couldn't watch the original video by myself. Im a biomed student and highschool kid.. yea raging hormones would make me create a comment war 😓

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Emily Roberts
Emily Roberts

I had a swollen arm with a horrible rash and felt really lousy when I was last vaccinated. I would much rather have these symptoms and the vaccine rather than having the disease that I am getting vaccine for.

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Yoann Parisot
Yoann Parisot

I rather be sick for a decease I caught by being non vaccinated than by vaccinated. That's my choice and I really deeply fuck you if you don't accept it 🖕🤗

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Butch Coolidge
Butch Coolidge

11:00 "Personal stories, making is emotional ... This is how you resonate with people ..." True, but how is that strategy any different from personal stories of kids getting autism after vaccination?

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Clinton Hammond
Clinton Hammond

Nobody got arthritis in their hands from a vaccine.

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Fuzzy 217
Fuzzy 217

If people can’t bring peanut butter to school your ass ain’t bringing polio.

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tea & honey
tea & honey

okay, i am deathly afraid of getting a vaccination, but it still baffles me how some people don’t understand the importance of getting vaccines.

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NINJAPLAYSMC Braden
NINJAPLAYSMC Braden

Yea I’ll take a deadly virus over an outbreak any day

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Brenna 33
Brenna 33

The anti vaxers literally disprove their own ideas...if your daughter has bad reactions and can't get vaccinnated then you better hope everyone else is vaccinnated so she doesnt catch the disease

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Green Horse
Green Horse

If they're so safe, why have Big Pharma companies been given immunity from prosecution against lawsuits relating to their vaccines? In other words, if they did put out a vaccine and people got sick, you CANNOT sue the company who made it.

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AJ Fawxe
AJ Fawxe

There is the potential for a seatbelt to cause fractures in your rib cage and even break your collar bone when locking up in an accident. When you realize that the alternative is you going face first into and possibly through your windshield and almost certainly dying, the choice is clear. It's the same with vaccines.

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nutica102
nutica102

This video is excellent. Love all of your replies !

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Gwendolyn
Gwendolyn

I'm not vaccinated. I never had any problems. I'm no risk. I'm healthy. My doctor said I was the perfect example of a healthy person like the perfect healthy person in a medical book. I'm not anti I just don't understand the hate.

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bpxl53yewz
bpxl53yewz

Anti-vaxxers can't say they won't vaccinate their kids AND expect their kids to be schooled with other children, public or private. They can't have it both ways. Unvaccinated children will endanger those who rely on herd immunity, who for various medical reasons cannot get certain or all vaccines (ex.cancer patients, immnune system compromised) Diseases, like Measles, are contagious before the physical symptoms, like rash, show. By the time someone is diagnosed with measles, they have already infected others ... and so starts the outbreak. In CA it is now law that in order to attend public OR private school, students need to be vaccinated, or they must be homeschooled. We need to protect the safety of the public over these non-science based preferences.

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Bill Waterhouse
Bill Waterhouse

This offends me as a Vegan transgender hipster native-american-indo-Chinese hybrid alien agnostic-atheist german engineer who vapes fair-trade organic decaffeinated compressed and hydrated extra-protein soy breast milk on the regular and hindi kama sutra naked cross fit yoga 8 days a week. I’m also a non-binary transqueer male feminist and identify myself as a hybrid lizard bat thats also a pansexual omega wolf that holds a pack of tiger aliens and helicopters

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Raenice Dunbar
Raenice Dunbar

In 2018 I was diagnosed with Systemic Onset Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis at the age of 13 that changed my life because I was expected to get scholarships for track I was bummed but I carried on one month after that I turned 14 and 2 weeks later I had a huge flare I woke up 8 days later and was told I had been in a medically induced coma I later found out I was receiving numerous chemo treatments weekly and discovered I had HLH, MAS, and Lupus too and I was stunned because I didn’t know how I was alive I had an inflammation level of 500k and had less than an 8% chance of living one year later I’m about to turn 15 in 4 days I’ve been bald, seen way to many physical therapist and actual therapist, cried because of the weight I gained with steroids and because my athletic career is over after being told I have holes in my bones but not once did I doubt my doctors I’m finally traveling again and hopefully heading to boarding school in Spain next fall my life is finally back on track and that is because my parents trusted my doctors despite myself being only 14 I’ve already been named as a poster child for why not to get vaccines by anti vaccine moms which really just seems rather unnecessary and cruel but I know my mother wasn’t vaccinated because we lived in Trinidad while she was alive and no one really cares over there and she died from an infectious disease not lupus in the end so I’m thankful for my vaccines and I just wish more people would consider their overall importance for a persons well being

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Meatusgrand The grevious
Meatusgrand The grevious

Can you do a review of ER please?

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ganchroi
ganchroi

My way of looking at vaccines is that even if my child has an adverse reaction at least they won't be dead - I'd rather have an alive but sick child than a dead one. Measles kills. Meningitis kills. Vaccines cause temps, maybe seizures and anaphylaxis, but I've never heard of someone dying from a vaccine. Sure you might have arthritis in your hands now, but at least you're not dead lady!

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Holly Elizabeth
Holly Elizabeth

I’m not sure if you’ve already done a video on this.. but I would like to know your opinion on doctor shows like greys anatomy , the good doctor etc

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The Bastion
The Bastion

I’d rather have a minuscule risk of anaphylactic shock than having a good chance of losing all my limbs or developing a deadly, painful disease.

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Playlist Master
Playlist Master

13:04 Since when have activists seen killing babies as a bad thing?

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Adorable Deplorable
Adorable Deplorable

spread that propaganda, doc. and collect your check from your eugenicist sponsors. you cherry picked that video so hard. only the things that fit the narrative, right doc? i'll give you credit for admitting the adverse side affects of vaccines. but you're being disingenuous when you act like all the other doctors out there are as reasonable as you. i've had countless doctors tell me there are ZERO adverse side effects to vaccines and that any side effects are coincidence. or made up. auto immune disorders are on the rise. coincidentally, we have way more vaccines on our schedule than loads of other countries that have lower auto immune rates. and what about italy and all the terrible things they found in their vaccines after they fired the corrupt 30 person vaccine board? I'm sure that's a coincidence too..

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Goldfish Fishysons
Goldfish Fishysons

Has there been any vaccines they had to take away because of of xxxxxx amount of cases happened? Honest question.

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viperhalberd
viperhalberd

Marisa: "I ended up with a kid with an autoimmune disorder". Oh, I'm so sorry Marisa that the kid you CREATED wasn't perfect!! What an entitled, inhuman bitch.

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Zutraxi
Zutraxi

I cringed, I cried, and I paused multiple times, holy crap these anti vacs people. I wish I had the cure to for their stubbornness. "I know my child better medically than a doctor who trained for more than half a decade".

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itsmedimas
itsmedimas

I like your arguments

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Thomas P
Thomas P

The problem is a breakdown in trust between the state and the public. The vaccines have undergone testing to ensure they are safe and effective.

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that_kid nobody_notices
that_kid nobody_notices

I can understand somewhat, how anti-vaxers see one dismissive doctor and say that's all doctors. But that's just so stupid. My family doctor denied for months, even a year, that my sister has autism (because and I quote, "she interacts with me."), even though me and my brother have it, so we know the signs. Did we stop going to doctors? No, we got her diagnosed by the school special needs people, so now we can get her a 504 when the need arises. We didn't stop because of one dismissive doctor, we went and got a 2nd opinion.

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Michelle F
Michelle F

If you have the time, can you watch Brittany Kara's MMR vaccine video? I would love to hear your perspective! Thanks!

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Sam Rader
Sam Rader

The brunette antivaxxer had absolutely no business here. She wasn't here to have a conversation she thought she was going to convert them.

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Troy the Man
Troy the Man

To be honest, no one should be forced to vaccinate a child or themselves. My kids are vaccinated but this whole forceful vaccination thing is stupid.

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Rachel Solomon
Rachel Solomon

Do you also believe it shouldn’t be law to wear a seatbelt in a vehicle?

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KOREAN DOMINICAN BOYS
KOREAN DOMINICAN BOYS

Parents. Just get informed about vaccines these information you will find it on the FDA and on the CDC. You will find their ingredients, and their reports on the adverse reactions. Oh and search for Stanley Plotkin on YouTube the scientist that created some of these vaccines. He testified under oath what these vaccines are made of and what they actually do to you!

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Jack Martinelli
Jack Martinelli

So what is it? Objective or emotional? I prefer stats.

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KOREAN DOMINICAN BOYS
KOREAN DOMINICAN BOYS

Why doctors don't tell patients the REAL adverse reactions? Before vaccinating? Well theses reactions are on the FDA vaccines package inserts.(Which are a LOT)And doctors only tell you that is high fever and pain.

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Jack Martinelli
Jack Martinelli

I read an article on PLOS that reported that in 2018 the flu vaccine was only 20% effective. You don't get herd immunity with that level of efficacy.

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Ryan Kittle
Ryan Kittle

Should I stop eating peanuts outside of my house because someone out in public has an allergy to peanuts? Basically, I believe in personal autonomy; personal rights, and rights over the children, above the state.

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Jojo Shandy
Jojo Shandy

Dr I really need your opinion on this alot of people say that vax could trigger autism is that true I have a kid who is coming up on his 18 month vaccination should I give him or it would be okay to just postpone it till he becomes 3 years old. Please help

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Wannabe Fairy
Wannabe Fairy

Jojo Shandy Do not postpone. Vaccines have zero substantial correlation to autism. The doctor who claimed to have found the correlation faked the results and lost his medical license. No other study since has come to similar results. The overwhelming medical consensus is that autism is a genetic disorder children are born with. The thing about it is that it’s hard to detect at a very young age. These parents who speak out against vaccines see the signs later on and baselessly assume vaccines were the cause, failing to realize their child was always autistic. These parents just want a scapegoat and don’t want to admit it’s a biological disorder. Even if it wasn’t and vaccines did cause autism, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. Autistic is a spectrum and many with it are perfectly capable of living a normal life. At least they wouldn’t risk catching measles or an even worse disease, or passing it to another innocent child. The better option should be easy to see.

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Jojo Shandy
Jojo Shandy

+Rachel Solomon do u think any mom would make a joke about this !! Im asking this question not because of some dr who said that it does I'm asking this because of all the YouTube videos that I have seen of kids who were just fine and then they get a vaccine and all of the sudden they have autism and from by part I have asked an autism specialist and he also said that there alot of kids that he treats were fine before the vax and as u can see I'm still digging into all of this and also I didnt ask if it's okay to not give him I'm just asking if it's okay to postpone and ofcourse I would go to a pediatrician to ask more about this cause it is scary I'm not really sure how would u think this is a joke 🤔

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Rachel Solomon
Rachel Solomon

I can’t tell if this is a joke, but if you’re serious... the autism concern has been disproven a very long time ago. Nobody still makes this argument because it had no basis. The doctor who started it got his license removed.

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Ryan Kittle
Ryan Kittle

You talked about immune compromised individuals. Should immune compromised individuals be placed in situations, like the general public, where they will be introduced to even a common cold?

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Ryan Kittle
Ryan Kittle

Risk vs reward. Are the adverse reactions greater/worse than the diseases the vaccines are supposed to protect against? I personally see the adverse reactions more dangerous than most of the diseases they protect against.

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Nikaela Smith
Nikaela Smith

What’s amazing was that 1 in 3000 argument. A huge point is if your kid is the one in 3000 that has a bad reaction, then he/she can’t receive anymore vaccines. That’s okay because of herd immunity like Doctor Mike mentioned, the 2,999 kids that got the vaccine are a protection to him/her. Vaccines will never be perfect but the alternative is disastrous. These are treatable adverse reactions that people live fairly normal lives with as opposed to the devastating consequences of no protection at all.

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k c
k c

We vaccinate our son and my wife and he get flu shots. I don't. I think people are just stuck in how something effects them personally.

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Coconut inc.
Coconut inc.

Why isn’t he on he on this segment.

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Shana B
Shana B

Great video!!

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Dimentive
Dimentive

Not vaccinating your child should be illegal.

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Dimentive
Dimentive

Providing rational counter-arguments to anti-vaxxers is a waste of time. It's like arguing with a flat Earther.

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Aila Baroud
Aila Baroud

Anti-vaccine movement, and any other pseudoscience movement, usually occur because of doctors and scientists being very far away from normal people. Which makes others question what doctors and scientists are doing behind those closed science labs and what type of magical language are they using inside the textbooks. Most normal people can't read med school textbooks and understand them(that's why they are not doctors of course 😅). As a an undergrad engineering student I find it hard to explain science to my friends and family. Even I feel sometimes very sceptical whenever I go to a doctor and they give me a pill and that's it, I mean I would love to learn what is my illness, how did it occur? Do I have to change my diet? Exercise more? Which exercises are good? Which aren't? Same happens with these anti-vax parents. They don't know anything about keeping their children healthy and they can not find easy to understand honest resources and education about their and their children's health on the internet. Of course they will start believing lies on the internet! I suggest that doctors and governments should educate people about health more. Maybe they should add this as a mandatory subject in all schools. They should also teach people how to detect pseudoscience on social media and not buy into this stupidity ☹

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Dwayne Chapman
Dwayne Chapman

I love how Doctor Mike is being the reasonable logical one. He'd be the guy who convinces anti-vaxxers to get vaccinated. Meanwhile the thousands of comments on this video spewing hate are what would make the anti-vaxxers dig in and refuse. Seriously, you guys can learn something from Mike's words if you really listen to what he is saying, and not just using it to auto-confirm your own shitty ideals. Listen to what he said after the woman toward the end about not rejecting people or putting them down, but being compassionate and trying to find middle ground where they can understand. That is where it's true for almost ANY argument or debate. Find the ground where the other can understand what you are saying.

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my name jeff
my name jeff

Yaa

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Kevin Greenwood
Kevin Greenwood

" Its not doing your kids a service to get them vaxed " The service your doing for them is keeping them alive till there past the age of three

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Kyra Faith
Kyra Faith

“Investigating “ = Googling

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Corbin Moore
Corbin Moore

Lmao that anti vacc medical “professional” got his license suspended

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Xian Rei
Xian Rei

11:55 I AM SO SORRY I lost focus on the topic for a few secs because her face reminded me of.....that doll from The Conjuring(was it?). *I am so sorry...*

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Xian Rei
Xian Rei

11:55 I AM SO SORRY I lost focus on the topic for a few secs because her face reminded me of.....that doll from The Conjuring(was it?). _I am so sorry..._

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Hasina Kamau
Hasina Kamau

They didn't have any black anti vac people there. Cuz we get real deep with it. They don't want the heat.

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ArchEnema 67
ArchEnema 67

Are you really in favor of informed consent? I'm not anti-vax, I'm anti-thiomersal mercury and anti-aluminum. Almost all European countries ban the use of these preservatives in vaccines, but doctors in the US refuse to even discuss the topic. Do you "inform" the parents that you are injecting their child with toxic mercury? I really doubt that you do.

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Linexes
Linexes

ArchEnema 67 why is it objectionable? It’s not harmful. It seems like the current substances are more effective at making vaccines, why change?

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ArchEnema 67
ArchEnema 67

+Linexes Then why NOT take the simple step of removing the objectionable practice if it makes no substantive difference? Unless, of course, the real goal is to tweak the noses of those you wish to persecute.

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Linexes
Linexes

ArchEnema 67 they arent banned because they are usefull. When they were banned in the EU they were banned not because they are harmull, but because of public concern they could be. If it aint broke dont fix it

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ArchEnema 67
ArchEnema 67

+Linexes If that's true, why not simply ban these preservatives as they do in Europe? Your assertion doesn't pass the smell test.

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Linexes
Linexes

ArchEnema 67 there is no reason for him to say that. There is less of these substances in the vaccine than what you take into your body on a daily basis from eating and breathing

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Katharine Brewin
Katharine Brewin

I noticed these arguments were based on personal experiences that happened due to an adverse reaction and now they don't want anyone getting vaccinated because they got a reaction. its like saying you want peanuts banned because your allergic to them, just because your allergic to them doesn't mean everyone else is. Even small drugs we all take have adverse reactions, medication such as Panadol can cause reaction such as symptoms of liver problems such as fatigue, feeling unwell, loss of appetite, nausea, yellowing of the skin or whites of the eyes, dark urine, pale stools, abdominal pain or swelling, and itchy skin, its rare which is why people still take panadol, just because you had a reaction doesnt mean it should be banned for everyone.

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Im Cuh
Im Cuh

You’re saying the lady should base her opinion off of someone’s statistics instead of what she experienced herself? Why?

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zainab kapadia
zainab kapadia

It's just so sad that there are people who believe against getting vaccinated just because they might experience adverse effects that affect a few percentage of people. In many third world countries people are illiterate and are unfortunate that their government does not provide them with vaccines. I myself am from a developing country (India) and so many people experience horrible things (even death) because they aren't vaccinated. I have come in contact of some very unfortunate people who were not vaccinated against polio. One of them was a graduate of a well reputed university in mumbai and unfortunate enough to become a victim of polio. Despite having an excellent educational background the man lost his job and was eventually forced to drive a rickshaw. The government of India went to great lengths to create awareness about polio vaccines and it has shown great results. India is now a polio-free country declared by the WHO. I am not trying to down play the adverse effects vaccines have. But I suggest that before anyone decides against vaccinating their child they have considered the consequences their child faces due to not being vaccinated. These consequences may be more dire than the adverse effects.

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thedarkevildragon1
thedarkevildragon1

Just let Darwin do his thing xD

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Ich_musste_das_für_Kommentare_tun
Ich_musste_das_für_Kommentare_tun

Lesson of today? Don't befriend your doctor, if they're good at thier job. :'D

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The Exotic Shorthair
The Exotic Shorthair

Yea, that pediatrician? He is on probation, and was filed for multiple counts of negligence by the Californian health board, for being anti-vax.

Vor 16 Stunden
1SaG
1SaG

I admire you for staying this calm, collected and rational in the face of wannabe-experts who clearly aren't aware of the facts, who clearly haven't studied/practised medicine but still believe their opinions are relevant and who keep citing anecdotal "evidence" to support their "gut feeling"-analysis of the situation.

Vor 16 Stunden
Zandér Stewart
Zandér Stewart

Doctors receive almost no nutritional education to be able to advise patients on how to cure their sickness, yet they freely dish out pill after pill with side effect after side effect. When we know without a doubt that good, healthy organic whole foods, hydration, exercise, sleep, and a positive mental attitude/lifestyle can cure/prevent most of our commonly knows issues. It's like 'the pill', which is legally given to women at the age of 14 maybe younger, is tested etc, and it works, so then saying we should use it and it's okay. How the fuck can people trust medical professionals when they give kids a form of steroids at such an early age, which fucks with their hormones, causes all kinds of problems through the well documented side effects leading to infertility, metal issues: depression, mood swings etc changing the course of their entire life and mental state.. Potentially causing problems for their offspring if they do manage to have a child down the line. People are rightly concerned about injecting chemicals into their child, with substances they don't fully understand or trust. The food we eat every day has a multitude of chemicals we never really knew about, the pill is a legal steroid which no many people know about, alcohol is legal but mushrooms and cannabis are not..?! The things we used to have to worry about may not be so relevant anymore due to higher sanitation and health & safety regulations, are there other protective methods to prevent these things. Nobody really knows or fully understands what the side effects of these vaccines are long term, there just isn't enough information to be able to take a calculated risk. It's simply trusting big pharma (which most people with any sense do not because it's big money driven) when there is a substantial amount of evidence to suggest links to long term side effects (which for the most part gets ignored) and not enough (for some vaccines) to show how necessary they actually are in this day and age. Almost everything we see and read is a socially constructed form of control and causes mass confusion, is it any wonder people don't trust a word

Vor 16 Stunden
Vary Olla
Vary Olla

Zander - your post is sadly a good example of a nonsensical statement.  Doctors receive nutritional education.  More important = doctors receive extensive education on human physiology.  Why is that important???  If you understand how the human body works = you can then understand how things "impact" that body - to include nutrition and how vitamins etc. work at the cellular level. So doctors in an office assess symptomology of the patient and determine a course of treatment.  Meanwhile in the hospital setting = doctors work in conjunction with a multidisciplinary team.  That team = registered dieticians - who specialize in nutrition of which you refer. So patients are then seen not only by doctors who determine their course of therapy = they are evaluated by subject-matter experts who pass on any recommendations to the doctor when needed.  So the entire premise of your argument is flawed I'm afraid as doctors represent merely the tip of a larger multidisciplinary team of specialists that can interact with people and who pass on information as a result.  That means they also pickup new information from those experts as time goes along to add to what they were taught in medical school.  You need to look at the larger picture here.

Vor 15 Stunden
Alex Blanco
Alex Blanco

Gosh, anti-vaxxers make me so angry that I nearly threw my phone away🤦🏼‍♀️

Vor 16 Stunden
Megan White
Megan White

Preach Dr Mike! This is why I can't move up in the medical field. I can't be reasonable and calm when it comes to that stuff lol. I tell them you know I've seen post polio syndrome and its not fun

Vor 17 Stunden
Hope Michiels
Hope Michiels

Lol... literally the media plays on emotions to get you to vaccinate........ Vaccines are definitely for profit hence why its a a $30 billion industry and will double by next year

Vor 17 Stunden
Linexes
Linexes

Hope Michiels ok, why is that a problem? The food industry is as well.

Vor 13 Stunden
Fee_fee 64
Fee_fee 64

Do I seriously need a flu shot every season Though? I don’t even leave my house

Vor 18 Stunden
Fee_fee 64
Fee_fee 64

The only person who made it movingly emotional with good stories was the man in the light blue Grey shirt, about his daughter. The man in the red shirt knew sats and that was nice. These are the kind of people I am around not the kind mike talked about. People who are open to change if taught.

Vor 18 Stunden
Kara Hughes
Kara Hughes

What's unfair with some anti vaxxers is that the *parent* is vaccinated but prevent their children from being so. It's also really frustrating when people decide not to vaccinate their kids at the behest of ill informed Google articles because this ignorance puts those who need herd immunity at risk.

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